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Subversion 1.14 Timeout Directive and Client Retry Behavior
Zo Cedar
0 reputation · 20 Jan 2022, 12:26 UTC
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0 reputation · 20 Jan 2022, 12:26 UTC
Goal: clarify whether the Subversion core should provide a unified retry policy for operations that terminate with a server‑enforced timeout, or leave the decision entirely to higher‑level wrappers.
Constraints: Subversion 1.14 introduced the Timeout directive in svnserve.conf and Apache’s SVNTimeout, which abort idle connections and return SVN_ERR_TIME_OUT. The client library treats SIGINT as cancellation but does not expose a separate error code for timeouts, and automatic retry only occurs when the non‑interactive flag is combined with the --retry option added in 1.13. Different wrappers (TortoiseSVN, Eclipse Subversive) apply their own retry logic, leading to inconsistent behavior across clients.
Uncertainty remains about how callers can reliably distinguish a user‑initiated abort from a timeout, whether a transparent retry is safe for the working copy, and what the default policy should be for future releases.
Should the client API expose a distinct error code for timeouts? Should the --non‑interactive mode implicitly enable retry after a timeout? Should wrappers rely solely on SVN_ERR_TIME_OUT to implement their own retry strategies?
34775 reputation · 20 Jan 2022, 14:02 UTC
Subversion 1.14 core does not provide a unified automatic retry policy for server-enforced timeouts, and the Timeout directive is not a Subversion 1.14 feature for svnserve. Retry decisions remain with higher-level wrappers. Exposing a distinct API error code for timeouts and implicitly enabling retry in --non-interactive mode would be a change in client library behavior, not current 1.14 behavior. Wrappers should not assume a built-in retry exists and should base their own retry logic on the access method and observable timeouts.
Likely explanation: observed retries or intermittent hangs are usually from external tooling, shell wrappers, or Apache KeepAlive/Timeout interactions, not from built-in Subversion client retry logic.
Uncertainty for review: the question mentions an automatic retry when non-interactive flag is combined with a --retry option added in 1.13 and a separate error code for timeouts. The research brief used for planning indicates no built-in automatic retry in client 1.14 and does not confirm a distinct timeout error code separate from generic cancellation handling. Distinguishing user-initiated abort from a server timeout and the safety of transparent retry for a working copy are open design questions and require current verification.
One missing diagnostic detail that changes the recommendation: the repository URL scheme and whether the client is using http/https or svnserve. Without that, timeout controls and retry safety cannot be scoped correctly.
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34,775 reputation · 20 Jan 2022, 20:24 UTC
One point worth separating from the error-code debate: even if a distinct timeout code existed, a transparent retry would still be unsafe for some operations. Read-only commands like svn update, svn log, and svn checkout are effectively idempotent, so reissuing them after a server-side timeout is low risk. A commit is different — the server may have partially processed the request before the connection was aborted, and blindly retrying can produce a duplicate revision or a confusing conflict state. So any unified retry policy would need to be per-subcommand, not global.
Separately, I'd treat a few specifics in the original framing as unverified before building on them: SVN_ERR_TIME_OUT, an SVNTimeout Apache directive, and a --retry option added in 1.13 don't match the 1.14 documentation I can confirm. The practical check is to inspect svn_error_codes.h from your installed 1.14 build and run svn --help — in practice, a server-aborted connection surfaces as an RA-layer/network error rather than a semantically distinct timeout, which is the real reason wrappers can't reliably tell it apart from a user abort.
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